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Re: A Lack of Understanding on God’s Grace

Ryan,

I love you.  You know that.  You also know that we disagree about a lot of things.  This is one of those things, specifically your point about it being hard to communicate God’s love without referencing His wrath.  If that is so essential, then why is it that so often in scripture when things seem to be boiled down to just the essentials we are never instructed to bring up God’s wrath? The great commandment, the great commission, Paul says “And now faith, hope and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love”.  He also said “the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself in love.”  The power of God’s grace and love does not need to be added to in order to increase its effectiveness, it stands on its own and wrath does not raise its potency.  God’s plan of salvation was predicated on His love, not His wrath; “For God so loved the world . . . “.

I don’t believe that you have to convince people that there are things wrong with the world and things wrong in their own life.  It is also common knowledge that almost every action, good or bad, will set in motion consequences – its just the way the world works.  However, when you tell someone about a perfect God that prevents convicted criminals from being stoned, or who sits down to have a conversation with an adulteress in order to inform her that her Messiah has arrived, when you can bring awareness to a kind of love that operates outside the reality with which we are most familiar – you don’t have to talk about wrath.  Don’t discount the fact that something significant changed in the way that God relates to the world when Jesus came. 

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2 comments on “Re: A Lack of Understanding on God’s Grace

  1. Tyler MacDonald
    November 24, 2011

    How can we know what grace is apart from knowing what it saves us from? You reference John 3:16 but exclude the part where Jesus says “everyone who believes in him may not perish.” Or how in John 3:17-21 Jesus speaks of God’s condemnation and judgement. Romans, often considered one of the best summaries of the Christian Gospel, speaks at great length of God’s wrath and judgement. Certainly I would not argue for a hell fire and brimstone Gospel but a Gospel not referencing God’s wrath is not truly the Gospel. We need not even turn to the Old Testament to see God’s wrath clearly laid out, it is contained throughout the New Testament especially Revelation. Not to mention the cross which is the ultimate sign of God’s grace but also a sign of God’s wrath. Should we lead with God’s wrath, probably not. Do we need to teach people the four spiritual laws, certainly not. But we must be true to the witness of Scripture and the witness of Jesus Christ who came to save us from our sin in order to bring us into eternal life.

    • tylerhudg
      November 25, 2011

      Tyler, I am not trying to deny that God’s wrath is a truth evident in scripture. My point is simply that you can communicate God’s love with the necessity of first explaining his wrath. God’s love is powerful on its own and does not need to be propped up by anything. The fact that the creator of the universe loves any person is a powerful truth that is life changing.

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